Practice Session #18

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Intro.

[00:00]

CK: Heyo! I’m CK and you’re listening to Practice.

I’m your functional systems integrator, and this is my podcast where practice is not just the theme of the show, but the whole purpose behind it. I’m using this platform to practice podcasting as well as speaking in general while espousing half-thoughts and providing unsolicited advice.

As always, I’m fortunate to be joined by my practice partner and partner in life, Pam.

Pam is also my pattern awareness manager, and every week we talk about my progress with this practice, as well as other lifestyle practices, along with theories and ideas behind the virtues of practice itself. Our conversations are unscripted and unedited. So we’re really doing this on a fly on the fly… I always mess that up.

Pam: That’s perfect.

CK: Yeah, so don’t hold me responsible for what I say here. Make sure to check out my show notes where I’ll provide some fact-checking, self-psychoanalysis, and comments on things I could have done better. You can find those and more information about Practice at ForcesOfEqual.com/Practice.

Catch up with the Anomaly and the Linchpin.

[01:26]

CK: And today we’re recording our 18th episode. It is June 28th, 2020. And let’s catch up with our week. So, do you want to start?

Pam: Um… sure. I had a pretty good week. The end of the month is always pretty chill for me ’cause I’m kind of like winding down on tasks for clients for the month. So I get to focus on other projects like putting together all of the content for the Not Bad With Money website for my financial coaching project.

Cool. Cool.

Which is now on your to do list. Um, so that was good.

I’m, uh, struggling a little bit today. We ran two miles this morning and I did not sleep well last night for some reason. Uh, I don’t know, from 1:00 to 3:00 AM, I was awake for absolutely no reason.

My brain wasn’t busy. I wasn’t anxious about anything. I just couldn’t get comfortable and couldn’t fall asleep.

So struggling a little bit today.

CK: Well you said you also had some tummy issues… after dinner last night?

Pam: Yeah. It’s still- still going on today, so…

CK: Maybe that affected your sleep too.

Pam: I’m sure it did. Yeah.

CK: But you still ran a good time in the two miles. And I actually ran it barefooted today.

Pam: Yes… on the street and sidewalks barefoot.

CK: Yeah… So I’m not really much of a road runner. I don’t like running on the road or the streets or pavement. I- I would much rather run on the trails.

Pam: Of course.

CK: And before, when I was running on the roads before I started to hit the trails, many years ago, I was running barefooted on the road.

Pam: I forgot you were doing that.

CK: Yeah. So did I. And so the past couple of weeks, I’ve been having issues with my foot, my right foot.

And I’m thinking it’s some kind of fascial issue, and it might be stemming from issues I had with my rib earlier this year.

So right before the declaration of the worldwide pandemic, I suffered a displaced rib playing soccer, and it just kind of twisted my body up. And ever since then, I’ve felt twisted and not right.

So I’m sure issues might be stemming from that. So I’ve been trying to work on my foot issue. And now I feel like it might be developing on my left foot as well.

And I also went out to the trails this past Friday for the first time in about a month. Because of my foot, I had been staying off the trails, but I’ve been continuing our Sunday, runs on the road with Pam. And my foot is fine during those times.

And this past Friday on the trails, I started feeling some issues with my foot, but then after like a quarter mile or half a mile, it went away and I totally forgot about it. And I was able to get my stride, and I had a good run. But then afterwards, or maybe the next day I started feeling my foot flare up again.

And it’s not that bad and I don’t feel it all the time, but I know it’s there and I know it’s affecting me and there’s, there’s a reason for it. So I’m trying to solve it. And I thought maybe giving my body some signals from natural barefoot running might help. So I tried that today during our run and we’ll see.

I mean, I love being barefoot and running on the road is pleasant for me. Pleasant, barefooted ’cause I like feeling the vibrations off the road, coming up through my foot and through my body.

And it’s something that I kind of forgot about. I mean, I do a little bit every day – we walk around barefoot, or I walk around barefoot around the neighborhood and I’ll kind of slap my feet and jog across the pavement. But this morning, we did it for an extended amount – two miles – and I got like a whole body, like, tingle-y feeling towards the end, which I forgot about. And it felt so cool.

And I think it has some relation with the concept behind whole body vibration. So I don’t know if listeners are familiar with whole body vibration, but there’s these vibration plates and say they can be maybe two by two feet. Just a square metal plate, almost like a big weight scale, like, that you can weigh animals on or something.

So obviously it’s on the floor and you can step up on it and it’ll vibrate. And depending on the specific machine, it’ll vibrate a certain number of times per second. And I think you need- need at least 30 vibrations per second or something like that for it to be effective.

And what happens is your whole body just vibrates and it kind of moves your cells around and gives your muscles this- even though it’s a small movement- it’s movement that your muscles are reacting to. And that enables a whole bunch of different functions and benefits that cascade down from that, including lymphatic movement or lymphatic

Pam: Drainage.

CK: Drainage, yeah. I haven’t thought about this stuff for a while, so I’m trying to come up with the verbiage.

But your lymphatic system is closely related to your circulatory system, but the thing is where your circulatory system circulates with your heartbeat, your lymphatic system circulates with muscle contraction.

So this system doesn’t do its thing effectively unless you’re moving. And so that’s why movement is so important. Your lymphatic system is a big part of your immune system. It holds a lot of your, um, immune cells and recovery cells and stuff like that. So, this is one of the reasons that electronic muscle stimulation works because it’s stimulating your muscles to contract.

And the contraction allows circulation through your lymphatic system, not to mention nitric oxide production, which vasodilates and a whole bunch of other things. So that’s the idea behind the whole body vibration.

Pam: Is it the same concept as rebounding? Like when you jump on a trampoline?

CK: Yeah, exactly. So rebounding is kind of further down the spectrum. It’s kind of like a bigger vibration, if you can picture that in that sense where, you know, whole body vibration on a plate is a lot of little small vibrations.

Rebounding is bigger vibrations and more movement, but it’s the same principle and you obviously get lymphatic circulation with rebounding. And even something like jumping jacks, you don’t even need like a little trampoline or something. So any really any kind of movement walking also creates lymphatic circulation, but something like whole body vibrations really easy and it’s really effective because of the number of vibrations you get.

And anyway, I got to this from barefoot running and the vibrations I was getting from that. But then after our run, as we were walking back home, I got my bare feet back on the grass. And that was, like- the contrast between the vibration I was getting from the road and the transition into the grass was such a cool contrast.

It’s such a cool feeling because your feet are all almost numb because of the vibration. And then after pounding your feet on the hard pavement and then transitioning into the soft grass – and this morning it was still a little wet from the morning dew – it was just a really cool feeling like so soothing and relaxing.

So yeah, that’s just something that I forgot about and I’m glad that I got back into it this morning. And I think on our Sunday runs, I’m going to be going barefoot from now on.

Pam: So that’s a silver lining that came out of you having this weird foot-nagging injury that you got to re-experience this. And remember that you really liked barefoot running.

CK: Yeah, totally. So yeah, take a negative and turn it into a positive. And my foot feels fine right now. So we’ll see if that had any effect on what I was originally doing it for.

Yeah, so…

Pam: What else is going on with you?

The latest on my podcasting practice.

[10:48]

CK: Yeah, it’s been a long week for me. And I think let’s just get into the first segment of podcasting and I’ll kind of get into it here, because this is a segment where I talk about my process with practicing podcasting.

And there was a lot around that that I dealt with this past week and there was a lot of other stuff as well. And so the- let’s see, the studio is coming along. I pretty much finished almost everything that I wanted to get done. And I did that this morning or did the last of it this morning, uh, before the session.

But man, I, I keep running into so many issues and hang ups and things popping up here and there. And, I mean, it all kind of falls back to workflow. And this was one of the main reasons that I wanted to rearrange this room in the first place was to dial in my workflow for this- these new processes that I’m implementing for these new projects.

And what- and so my workflow with the studio and with my work is coming along fine, but there’s still some, I mean, it’s improving, I’m making improvements and I’m progressing. And maybe that is contributing to some of my frustrations. Cause I’m getting so close to the end and getting things dialed in perfectly.

And there’s just a couple little things here and there that are just kind of nagging at me. And some of them, I know what they are and some I don’t. And some I know I can just take care of in some, I know I’ll have to deal with for awhile.

So that’s kind of where I’m at now. And this morning might be a good metaphor for this whole thing, because- actually yesterday and this morning, because I was finishing up the acoustic treatment we put up for our windows.

And one of the big problems that we’ve had is the noise outside of our condo.

Pam: We have a neighbor with an annoyingly loud charger.

CK: Yeah, I mean, we have three neighbors with loud cars, basically. Two right in front of us and one behind us. And it’s not, I mean, it’s not so bad that, you know, it’s detrimental to our recordings, but it’s much easier if I didn’t have to deal with those. So, we put up some treatment so I could hang blankets over the windows.

And I’ll eventually post pictures and notes about this stuff, because I researched a lot of different ways to go about this. And I think it might be helpful for others to see what I did and see if that’s a viable option for them.

But I put up these treatments and the thing is I don’t do a lot of handiwork around the house because, I mean, we don’t have much that we have to do. Like, I don’t have to build a lot.

I did a lot in the past when I’ve bought my place, but these days, you know, there’s not much construction work per se, that I need to be doing.

Pam: Yeah, you’ve been here for over a decade, so everything’s pretty much done.

CK: Right. So when I had to go back into the garage and get the tools out to put up some boards and, uh, drill some wood and do all this stuff, I didn’t have the proper tools because they were stolen a couple of years ago out of our garage. And so I had this great set of Craftsman power tools that I loved, and it was perfect for what I needed and for what I would need, like, at any point.

It had everything that I needed and it got stolen. And I haven’t really needed it since then. I still have my power drill and all that stuff. And that’s basically the only thing that I really needed.

But doing this woodwork to put up the acoustic treatments, I really could have used my circular saw, but it was stolen. And I had three cuts I had to make. And so I had to determine how I was going to make those cuts. If I wanted to maybe drive to home Depot and get them cut. Or I do have a little handsaw. So, but it’s a small hand saw and I got- the wood that I got is really hardwood. And so I knew that was going to be a pain in the ass.

And then I was thinking, maybe I’ll just deal with it later, you know, during the week or something and just not deal with it right now. And the thing is like- Oh, and then another option was, should I go to a neighbor’s and see if they have a circular saw and sometimes, you know, neighbors are working outside and they’re doing their work, and I, you know, it would have been easy if someone was already doing work and I could just pop in and have them cut the wood.

And, you know, it would have taken literally less than a minute and it ended up- So I ended up using the handsaw. It ended up taking me like 45 minutes to do what could have taken a minute.

So, this is the kind of stuff that I’m dealing with. Like I know how stuff can get done and the most effective way to do it, or I have an idea, but I have to deal with not having the most effective tools to go about doing these things the most effective way or the most efficient way.

So it’s this dissonance between the most efficient process and the processes that I have available to me that I’ve had to deal with.

Pam: I mean, that’s just kind of life, isn’t it?

CK: Yeah, definitely. But it’s- and you know, I understand that, but I mean, it’s frustrating.

So I’ve kind of been trying to shift my paradigm over this past week because of this exact scenario of, you know, efficiency versus what’s- what you have available. And I’ve been kind of focused on goals and outcomes this past week or so.

I mean, last week we talked about my schedule and processes and procrastination and stuff like that. And thinking about that, you know, it kind of started sending me down the road of, you know, “I’m not getting this stuff done. I’m not getting anything done. I’m making no progress.”

But in reality, if I look back, I got a ton of stuff done.

I was going to swear, like I generally don’t swear in this is a. Uh, child safe podcast. So..

Pam: Except for me.

CK: Well, I’ve been scratching out Pam’s swearing, but like this- I got so much stuff done over the past week, even over the past two weeks.

Pam: You did. Yeah.

CK: Yeah. Even if I didn’t finish out what I set out to do. I got so much done in the process and I got so many other things done that I didn’t set out to do, but they were important for the process or important for other things.

So, yeah, I mean, we talked about like explanatory style before where you can have like a positive or negative explanatory style and. I realized that I was falling into this line of negative thinking and having a negative explanatory style where I was thinking, you know, these- like I was being ineffective and I can’t get stuff done.

And, you know, I was falling in this whole line of thinking, whereas, you know, when I stopped and paused and reflected on what’s actually going on, I started realizing that I am getting a lot of stuff done and I am moving stuff forward. And I’m getting a lot more things done than I thought I would be even, you know, if I really think about it.

So I think that just goes to show the whole- the importance of. Mindset and perspective and how if you go about things mindlessly, you can fall into these holes or traps – thinking traps – and fall in to, like, this negative cycle.

Pam: So can I ask two- or bring up two things about that to kind of follow up on?

CK: Yeah, of course.

Pam: Uh, so last week I was a little bit hard on you about distractions and procrastination and, you know, what you were focusing on and- and maybe like the cables are not the important thing, if that’s not your goal or whatever.

And then a couple days later I was thinking about that and I came back to you and I said, I feel like I was hard on you. And I want to make sure that, you know, that I recognize all of the stuff that you have gotten done and all of the work that you have been putting in.

And so I’m wondering if- if me coming down on you last week, if that put you into that spiral, or if you were already on that because of my second point, which is that you do set the really high expectations for how much you can get done.

So you’re kind of creating this feedback loop of expecting that you’re going to get so much done and then never being able to get that much done and then feeling like you’re failing because you’re not getting everything done.

CK: Right. Yeah. I mean, I’m not sure.

I imagine that what you said last week had some effect, but at the same time, I was already kind of thinking about that stuff too.

But another thing- okay, so if you can remember this topic for freetalking… or actually I have it notated here.

So, um,.. Oh yeah, so for the pocketing practice, one more thing that I wanted to touch on is our audio quality from last week.

Oh, yeah.

So I’ve been working on audio quality and post-processing with sound and all that stuff. As you know, as I’ve been talking about, you know, all of this, uh, over the past couple of weeks.

And last week, I was really excited because, you know, we’ve just been continually dialing in the process and the editing and the sound’s just been getting better and better.

And two weeks ago I thought was one of our best episodes. And I actually went back and listened to the past two episodes this past Friday- and to kind of compare.

So what happened last week was that Pam ended up using the mic on her laptop rather than the external mic – the blue Yeti that we have set up.

Pam: Yeah, we had taken the mic – we had disconnected the mic and taken it and gone and recorded a session with CKS parents. So then when we brought everything back and reconnected, for whatever reason, my settings were not set to my Yeti microphone, which they always are.

So I- and I didn’t even check it. I did not have a checklist of things that I was supposed to review first. And I actually had checked the volume in the game. So I was really excited that I had remembered to do those things. And I missed probably the most important thing, which was that I was actually using the microphone that I was supposed to be using.

CK: Yeah. So that provides a good lesson for others.

Pam: I have a checklist now.

CK: Yeah. So all you need to do is have a checklist – like a pre recording checklist – that you can go through. And really all you need to do is do a test recording and play it back and listen to it. I mean, that’s probably the minimum, the thing that you need- you can do.

Because other than that, like all you really need to need to- really need to check is your input volume and to make sure that you’re using the right microphone. So your input and I think that’s it, right?

Pam: Well, we’ve had a mistake before with the direction,

CK: Oh yeah. So if you have a mic that has a bunch of different settings – for example, the blue Yeti has settings, uh, like for example Omni directional, where if you have multiple people around the mic, uh, it has an Omni directional setting, or it has the cardioid setting for one person in front of the mic.

So there’s those settings you have to make sure that you set correctly as well. So other than that, uh, I’m not sure. I’m sure I could put more notes in the show notes or, you know, all this stuff will eventually be in the agile podcasting guide.

Pam: But the point here is that Pam added extra frustration to CK’s life because he had the audio perfected, and then I went and screwed it up last week.

CK: Yeah, it definitely didn’t help. And I also- but the thing is, like, it gave me some good practice in what I could do with regular computer audio. Because you know, there may be a time where we need to do that in the future. And you know, someone else that we’re talking to or interviewing may not have quality external microphones or something like that.

So, you know, it was good practice for me to try to get the audio up to par. So, you know, it’s a learning process. And as we’ve said before, fail- to fail stands for first attempt in learning. So we’re all about learning here.

And we talked for 26 minutes already?

Pam: I guess so.

Freetalking tangent salad based on self-reflective revelations.

[26:31]

CK: All right. Well, let’s move on to our freetalking segment where I make tangent salads out of the half- thoughts that are floating around in my mind.

And continuing on what we were talking about: my psychology over the past week or so. So one thing I also didn’t notice last week that was occupying my mind was a conversation that we had with my parents.

So I’m still working out a lot of psychology from my childhood and adolescence, and that ramped up last week after our visit with our parents for Father’s Day. And we also mentioned we recorded, we’ve probably recorded for like two and a half hours with them.

Pam: It was at least two. Yeah,

CK: Yeah.

Pam: We meant- we meant to do an hour and it took 45 minutes for me to get your dad on track.

CK: Yeah. So, last week’s session while we were recording, I didn’t realize how much that conversation was affecting me. But as the week went on and I was reflecting on stuff that they said, uh, and I was reflecting on my own self confidence and how I’ve been lacking in it and how I’ve been trying to build it up- build it up…

And after thinking about that and what my parents were talking about it’s- to me- I- Okay, so I’m kind of- this is- okay, so I’m going on a tangent here…

So I’m going back to this whole self-reflective process of this podcast. And I’m- I want to reiterate again how beneficial it is because I think over the previous episodes, I’ve been kind of more reflective because I’ve been thinking of the podcast and what I’ve said in previous sessions and what I’m going to say in the next session.

But now I’m a little less anxious about what I say and what I’m going to say. And the benefit of self-reflection is starting to come more from actually saying stuff, and voicing stuff, and getting things out of my head.

So for example, for this session, I really haven’t thought about what I’m going to say. I mean, I’ve had some ideas and of course I’ve had thoughts that are bouncing around in my mind for the past week… but I totally blanked… uh…

Pam: You’re talking about confidence and things that your parents said.

CK: Yeah. So, okay. So this podcast is like- I’m- I’m loving the process of this podcast because it’s getting me to say stuff that- or kind of process stuff that I may not process as actively before in the past.

So getting on mic and talking to you and having a potential audience and others, listen, it’s kind of engaged this process in my mind of getting stuff out and- and getting stuff out of my head.

And I just wanted to say that because before I would have just kept this- a lot of this stuff to myself and just maybe kind of dove into rabbit holes on my own. And while, you know, me and you Pam, we’ve been talking more lately and conversing about stuff more, and I’ve been a little more open with my own personal issues and thoughts lately…

I think this practice of the podcast and using it as a self-reflection tool is helping a lot more as well in terms of giving me a space to just put stuff out there and having this space again available and having- like it- like, this is my opportunity to kind of try to process stuff and get things out of my head.

I know I keep saying the same thing over and over again, but I’m not exactly sure how to articulate this. But I think the whole, like, th- What I’m trying to say is basically like I would have internalized a lot of things before and just kind of ran into a vicious cycle internally inside my own head, rather than now that I have this process, I can get stuff out and process them easier and more effectively and more efficiently and move on instead of being in this negative cycle. So I just want to mention that.

So going back to the self confidence thing, like- So you had a- you gave a weird look when I mentioned this in the first place. Did you not?

Pam: Oh, I- no, I don’t think so. I didn’t mean to.

CK: Okay. So I realize…

Pam: Sorry. Yeah, I was trying to remember what they had said that related to your confidence. Cause we are really talking to them about what their, um, their story was about their arranged marriage. But now I remember that there was a lot of tangents about you and their expectations of you and… all of that.

CK: Right. So… so they had a big issue with me moving out here to California after I graduated from college. And they didn’t want to let me go. And they- because they had no confidence in me. They thought that I wouldn’t be able to succeed on my own, forgetting or not even thinking of the fact that I got straight A’s through schooling, I was the best soccer player in my school, I was the best musician. I was at the top of all of these things. I performed to the best, better than anybody at my school, better than anybody around me.

And I’m not saying this to brag, I’m just- this is just the facts. And still my parents didn’t think I could succeed. They had no confidence in me.

Pam: And, and their confidence, their lack of confidence was based on the fact that you didn’t keep a construction job for longer than two days. Like, out of everything that you did. The fact that, like, one thing – which I think is- is a really important point that you did succeed everywhere and then there was one thing that you didn’t succeed at – and that’s what you were judged by.

CK: Yeah. One thing I didn’t succeed at while I was having to still play soccer and train and be the best at that and succeed at that and everything else I was doing. So it’s no wonder that I have an issue with self-confidence because I grew up with my parents, my models, not having confidence in me.

So I’ve kind of been working through that psychology throughout the past week and that kind of relates to another point where I’m now realizing why I’m so interested in developing models and frameworks, because I didn’t have any growing up.

I had- I had to do that growing up. I was the only minority most of the time in all my classes while I was growing up. You know, my parents couldn’t help me or provide a model for me for what I’m supposed to be doing around my peers and my daily life.

So I didn’t have any models to follow. I had to figure everything out for myself. I did find all these patterns, observe everything around me. And so we talk about complex systems and subsystems and super-systems, and I was so consciously self transcendent to my super system.

So I was hypervigilant – I was always aware of my surroundings and everything going on so that I could figure out the patterns of how to behave because I had no models of behavior. So- so yeah, that’s what I’ve been thinking and processing for this past week and kind of what I’ve been realizing.

And thinking about that stuff is really kind of turning the gears and helping me realize why I do some of the things I do and why I have some of the tendencies I have. And so it’s also helped me kind of increase or boost my productivity with my coaching framework and coaching process and stuff like that.

So, yeah, I mean, it’s been really beneficial and I’ve been able to process this stuff and I’m excited about that. So…

Pam: I think that’s such, um, such a great perspective because I’ve- I’m always asking you, “why are you so focused on creating these systems and explaining your thoughts within a system and like associating concepts with like, you know, Newton’s laws and all this stuff?” I’m like, “why are you constantly trying to make this a system?”

Whereas like everything that you’re explaining, I’m on the other side where I’m like, “well, what you’re talking about is just the human experience.” So I’m very much like, “this is just how everyone is.” And you’re like, “no, this is like unique and special and, and it’s complex.”

And so we’re coming at this from two very different mindsets, and I had never considered that your perspective on all of these systems is because of how you- you were observing how everyone else behaved to see how you should behave.

Because I didn’t have that experience. So, I mean, obviously everyone does to a certain extent, but not in the way that you did. So that, um, that really clears up a lot of my constant, like, “why are you doing this?”

CK: Yeah. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, again, I want to reiterate the benefits of this practice of podcasting. Cause I don’t know if I would have been able to process this stuff as efficiently or as beneficially without this podcast and without having to kind of talk about it.

And so I also want to make this point that about this paradigm shift I’m having and about this whole super system that I’ve been so consciously self transcendent with over my entire life. And- and this is kind of also relates to the stuff going on in the world today.

And so what I want to do is – for this podcast, especially, and maybe for forces of equal in general, I don’t know. I, we haven’t really talked about this at all, but – my perspective is that for Practice, this is going to be my world. This is going to be my creation.

And this is what I want to try to assert. I want to assert my world into the super-system because I’ve been so transcendent into the super-system. That I haven’t really- What did I say?

Pam: No, you didn’t say anything… this is just- it’s beautiful.

CK: Yeah, I- cause I, you know, I need to put more of myself out there. And the thing is like, I’ve been observing and absorbing all this stuff from the systems outside of me. And I think there’s a lot of benefit with what I could put out there and assert for myself in terms of what I’ve experienced with the- my self-transcendence.

So I don’t know if that makes sense, but that’s what I’m doing. This is going to be my world and everybody’s invited, but this is my world and I’m going to try to be more, you know, this kind of a little bit of a paradigm shift. Because before I’ve been so worried about what everybody else is thinking and I- like, a lot of these sessions for me are colored with the thoughts that- okay, are- “Do people know about this or are they going to know what I mean when I say this?”

So I have to kind of navigate other people’s thoughts or awareness of certain things too. And, you know, that gets really messy once I start talking about complex systems and quantum physics and stuff like that, and having to try to figure all this stuff out.

So, um, you know, there’s going to be my world and Pam hopefully, uh, will continue to help tether me to this- to the actual world and see where we can go from there. So how does that sound?

Pam: It sounds great, I think. I am all in favor of you getting more confident and asserting yourself. I- I love it.

CK: Yeah, it’s going to be a work in process, but that’s my intention.

Yeah. So I wanted to set that intention here on the podcast and vocalize it.

Practicing the practice, and other practices.

[40:39]

CK: And so, yeah, we’re over time today. And. I thought I had a tip that I wanted to give out for practicing or practices. Um, can you think of anything? I don’t want to put you on the spot, but anything that relates to all this?

Pam: Um, well, I think we could tie it back to the beginning where you’re talking about barefoot running, which is you have this nagging issue that’s going on. And you’ve been trying and trying and trying to, you know, roll out your foot and do all this stuff and whatever, and you, um- that wasn’t making any progress.

So you tried something new. So that’s maybe a really good tip is if you have been stuck in a paradigm of “this is what I have to do,” maybe step outside that and try something new.

CK: Yeah. Beautiful. Perfect. I couldn’t have said it better.

Okay. So we’ll keep it there for now. And before we leave off Pam working, people hit you up?

Pam: You can find me on Twitter, where I am at @Pamela_Lund.

CK: And I’m also on Twitter at @cKdisco. And my voice is going on a little again this week. It was better than last week, I think. And I did forget to try honey again this week.

But I also forgot my supplement protocol at the beginning of episode. So real quick today I am drinking coffee. I took some Qualia Mind.

We also took some ketone esters this week and…

blughh. It tastes terrible.

Uh, I freaking love them. We might talk about them more in the next episodes. And did I take anything? Oh, I actually took a New Mood this morning. And, yeah, I was feeling a little stressed with all the work that I was trying to get done before recording. And so I took that.

Pam: And molecular hydrogen.

CK: Oh yeah, I did take some molecular hydrogen because of my foot fascial issues and my body- like, I feel like my muscles are a little dehydrated or my tissues are dehydrated. I don’t know. It could be like a mental thing.

But yeah, the tightness of my body, I don’t know. I was hoping the molecular hydrogen would be of benefit. So yeah. Took all that. I don’t think I did anything else, but I feel pretty good right now. And I’m pretty happy with the episode.

Pam: You seem like you’re in a better mood than you were, uh, all day yesterday and today. So…

CK: yeah, and it might go, it might speak to this practice again of self-reflection and getting this stuff out of my head. So, yeah, I can’t… say… I always get this phrasing wrong. I can’t…

Pam: You can’t say enough good things.

CK: Yeah… I can’t say enough good things about this practice.

Outro.

[43:34]

CK: So, yeah, we’ll keep it there. So thanks for joining us this week for this practice session. And I hope you come back next week and…

Pam: You already did. Where, where can you find us?

CK: Yeah, I did all that. Yeah. So hope you guys come back next week and keep on practicing.

To-da-loo! ✌️